Archived comment by Passerby:
Actually, Foothill, Stern, and Bowles are sometimes collectively referred to as "unit 4" so it actually does exist.

Archived comment by Lore:
Just a point of clarification; the poor guy didn't get housing because extension students do _not_ have preference. Simple as that!

When they apply the next year as a continuing student, THEN they will get priority. But not their first year/semester.

And I've seen a few not-so-hot Tri-Delts. :)

Archived comment by Luscious:
My spouse used to work as a maid for a few frat houses in Colorado, and that job inspired her burning hatred of the Greek system- which still sparks up now and then over 10 years later...

Perhaps the female Greeks would be less condescending, petty, and mean than the male Greeks, but I kind of doubt it. Apparently the male Greeks my wife dealt with treated her as a servant either beneath their notice or as a slave expressly put on Earth to do her bidding, neither of which was worth the minimum wage she was being paid to clean up puke, smashed windows, and spoiled kids' garbage.

In the past 11 years of Berkeley living, I've had very few positive frat-boy experiences- the only good ones have come after our amateur sports team earned their respect in the old street hockey intermural league. Before we beat them, they were snickering and carrying on, but after we won a couple of games, we all got along great. Weird how that happens, huh?

Archived comment by montygirl:
Passerby, Noah doesn't have bagels, he has a croissant.

Archived comment by Phil:
Site Goddess
In response to your "Aren't Tri-Delts known for something else?" question, At the large southern university I attended, the joke was "Tri-Delts: everyone else has".

Archived comment by Mike:
I don't know, and don't *wanna* know.{:^P

Archived comment by Passerby:
Where are Noah's bagels?

Archived comment by Larry Hosken:
Back in my day, The UCB Housing people were often vexing, but could be cowed. I took a semester off school for a work co-op/internship. The co-op office said I could still use the housing office's apartment listings. But no-one told the people at the housing office.

So I showed up at their office and they didn't want to let me in--as far as they were concerned, I wasn't enrolled. I asked them to explain their position very carefully, and they did. And as I realized how screwed I'd be if I couldn't use the listings, I think maybe I tensed up a lot and maybe clenched my jaw a lot as I talked.

They let me check the listings, and I promised to talk with the co-op office people to find out what was up.

When I talked with the co-op office people, they said that I'd made an impression on the Housing Office people: "They said they were glad that you never, uh, actually turned belligerent."

I was allowed to keep using the listings. And nobody had to get hurt.

Archived comment by Mike:
Matt: I did understand your argument, though. It's one of those "looks good at first glance" type things. That happens to me a lot with respect to women. :^)

Have a safe trip, nightfever. Hey, I'd take bars over frats on campus, anyway; have enough drinks, and *any* girl will do. Who needs sorors? But if my experience is anywhere near typical (no guarantee of that), you'll be ready to leave within the week. Good to go home, though, if only to remember why you left and to steel your resolve to stay away.
Geez, I keep wanting to say "watch out for the snow." Seems like half the world is frozen from here....

Archived comment by nightfever:
Are religious arguments a common thing here?? Darn! I like them sometimes...

We don't have sorrorities or frats or anything like that in Ireland...the largest uni in the country (UCD) has about 16,000 on campus. So, not all that big. But it does have 3 bars now!

There are only about 7 unis in the whole country and 4 of them are in Dublin. And, being from Dublin, I lived really close to one of them and so was living with my parents until August!

I am wandering now! Must stop! Am tired (but not drunk!!!!!) and am going back to Ireland in the morning for xmas hols! hurrah!

Archived comment by Matt:
Point.

Archived comment by Mike:
This is just my opinion based on my past experience, Matt, but I don't think it's anywhere near worth it to clean up after a house full of college-aged women for $7 a day. For one thing, I gotta agree with Gornar: close contact with women just makes said guy invisible. Secondly, the women's rooms I've seen since I've been in college are *just* as filthy, if not more so, than the guys'. You'll lose your zest for the job soon after having to pick up your first used condom, I bet. (Expect even worse if the Tri-Delts are all that you claim they are in terms of "friendliness.") In short, I figure that the job would be most akin to, if you can keep from being offended by the comparison, the proverbial piano player in the whorehouse. Hell, I'd turn down a job a poolboy at the Playboy Mansion. If I'm not a guest, why the hell would I want to be at your damn party?

Archived comment by Matt:
Site Goddess,
Ah, The Squelch. Good bunch of boys. I still laugh about the "ejaculatte" pornographic coffee.
First off, I'm about as close to the Greek system as one can be, without actually pledging. Let it be known that _every_ frat up here on the East Sieed (yo) wants to do social events with Tri Delt. Although, according to a triple-triangled friend of mine, the times they are a-changin' and they're becoming the "hands off" sorority, still full of hotties, but ones who don't play. Much.

Oh, and Houseboy is a guy (sometimes two guys) a sorority house hires to do things like clean the bathrooms, dust, pickup around the place, help with the dishes, etc. In return, he gets a room in the house (usually next to the garage, with its own bathroom), three meals a day, and a stipend, usually around $50 a week, I think. Pretty sweet life, I wager.

Archived comment by seleta:
Mike...hold on to your seat...even, *I* did not feel compelled to jump back on that wagon!!! (Cheers heard in the background!!)

If he could somehow become a "fly on the wall," he *might* gain that insight brought up earlier, but he would probably leave dazed, confused, and generally baffled. (TANGENT ALERT) One of my daughters once asked why boys are so weird (there were a couple of boys around doing silly...normal...boy things)...and I apologetically told her I had no answer for her, and told her that, in fact, she would be asking herself that question for the rest of her life...but the *good* news was that they would be asking themselves the same question about her!!

I think it has already been mentioned here that if women came with instruction manuals, most guys wouldn't read them *anyway*...and that is why no one has really bothered to write one (hahahaha).

There ya go, Mike, how's *that* for aiming the fire-throwers in another direction?

Archived comment by Jon:
Ah, I was thinking of a religious joke I heard the other day(about Heaven), but I'll actually refrain from citing it. Something about the last time I posted on a religious topic...

Still, my favorite view of Heaven/Hell has to be from "Waiting for the Galactic Bus"(I can't remember the author). Somehow it's very comforting.

As Dido sings on my new favorite album, "I'm no angel".

Archived comment by Mike:
(making an effort to move away from yet *another* religious debate)
I think that all college campuses use the "no room" ploy as a default setting. Maybe they do it in hopes of having some parent offer up a bribe. When I came back to school this semester, I got the same story: "no rooms available, sorry, go find a hotel." Schools are generally incompetent when it comes to keeping track of their own resources. Luckily, I knew this. I had to ask specifically if there were any "off-line" rooms; I knew that the school regularly keeps some perfectly serviceable rooms empty for *no good reason*. Sure enough, there was an available room in the dorm I had been trying to get into; I got this information from the Dean of Student Housing, the same guy who earlier that day had looked me in the eye and told me that they were all filled up. I guess the point is that students have to take the initiative and demand what they need even when they are told that there is nothing they can do.
Ah, the Internet access speed in this room ROCKS. :^)

Archived comment by IP Admin:
I need to figure out a better way to put tone into these entries.
His "oh the humanity" was fully sarcastic -- I don't think he would have minded living there a bit. But they weren't honestly offering him a spot -- they were just offering an excuse as to why he wasn't getting housing when they're supposed to have enough space for extension students, or something. (Those Housing & Dining bastards!)

Matt, I've generally not been involved with the greek life here at Cal, and so I certainly don't have the vast knowledge that the girls of the blahblah house are cute and the ones at the blahblahblah house are dim. But even I do occasionally hear things, and *cough cough* aren't the girls of tri delt known for something else, too?
(As the Squelch (www.squelched.com) once said, "How can the Tri-Delts be the _slutty_ sorrority girls. What, do they bring their own Rohypnol?")

Archived comment by Captain Snodgrass:
Impious haha that funny word.

Archived comment by mozilla:
If it's hell, will you be allowed to have fun?
Think about it. Hell is supposed to be eternal punishment--that's not going to be fun for anyone.

Unless, of course, you take a different definition of hell which doesn't really match the common concept, which wouldn't end up being hell anyway...

I know that not everybody believes in God or, more specifically, in the Christian faith. But honestly, hell won't be an eternal sin-fest. At least, not if you're talking about "impious" being in hell and "pious" being in heaven.

I figure when somebody says that (that hell's a party), they've said it in jest, at least partially. But I've heard it too much. I think people that say that are really saying they don't want to be Christians, whatever their reasons might be. They're just not coming right out and saying it. Why not?

Archived comment by nightfever:
But Rabid Leprechauns bring their own fun, what with them little hats and frothy mouths and the fact that Leprechauns are traditionally evil SOB's that'll drag you off to hell...or just generally kill you!

Also, wouldn't heaven be totally boring?? There would be no-one up there but people who lived their lives being pious and stuff (ie - boring people!)...all the fun is in hell if there is one...or that Limbo/Purgatory place might be fun to rock out in!

Archived comment by Gornar:
I don't think it works that way, Testas (gaining experience and using it, I mean). I lived with plently of girls in a coed dorm my freshman year, and spent a lot of time being the only guy around. The lesson I learned is that being a guy with a large group of girls makes you an asexual friend, and they treat you differently than if you were some mysterious guy that they don't know. Most girls SAY they want to date people they know, but I've never seen one go for any guy they are already good friends with. I made a lot of really good friends that year, but had to completely change my MO if I wanted a girl to be attracted to me.
Maybe it's different if you're attractive, though. But then there probably wouldn't be time to become friends before a soap opera ensued, and there's nothing worse than a large group of females against you. It's like fighting off rabid leprechauns.

Archived comment by Matt:
One last thing. I'm not going to explain terms, because I'm tired and I have a final tomorrow, but a couple semesters ago, I was in the running to be the houseboy for Tri Delt. Laugh if you want, but it's true. I really have a hard time believing that life gets any better than that for a guy in his early 20's. Even at Berkeley the Tri Delts are hot.

Archived comment by Testas:
OK, so he had to live in a all-girl floor... now if wasn't gay that would have been great for him... but, I guess, he's not... Imagine what a straight guy could accomplish by living all the time with girls, forget about the stupid dreams about all the girls all over that guy... think about becoming a girl expert, and then using it out there, that would be incredible...

Archived comment by IP Admin:
Oops. Bagels is now spelled properly.

I could offer up the fact that I've had more cups of coffee today than I've had hours of sleep, but I admit it's a lame excuse.

Mmm Penguin Mints. (click my name)

And as for living in an all-girls dorm... well, way back when, I lived in an all-girls suite. None of the stereotypical makeover parties or man bashing. Though last month I got a random mass email from one of my old suitemates, with an invitation to a lesbian orgy, I mean "Goddess Gathering."

Heh.

Archived comment by mozilla:
Girls that don't think it's funny AT ALL. 'Cause they'd make your life a living h-e-double-hockey-stick.

Other than that.... um... nothing. I think the first guy was being sarcastic.... :)

Archived comment by Kevin Fox:
It's the ticklefights, Matt. You never get any sleep...

Archived comment by Matt:
First off, even though "bagels" is misspelled, I find it funny how, until I found this site, I never thought "Noah's Bagels" could be the next "Mustang Ranch."
Secondly, where's the downside to living on an all-girls' floor? Please: another straight guy help me out, because I don't see one.