27 May 2002
Submitted by eve on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 11:02am. Wisdom
"Thank you for the flowers... no, you can't have a kiss, but you have my admiration. That should be worth more to you! 'Cause you can kiss anyone, but you don't necessarily admire them."
--Shirley Manson, lead singer of Garbage at the Warfield.
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Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 06/03/2002 - 8:12am.
Archived comment by Jon:
Not fair, Anna, you can't dangle a definition and not tell us! What does it mean in that specific context?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 05/31/2002 - 9:52am.
Archived comment by Matt:
What's almost scary about this site, Anna, is that there are many people who thought the "cheese makers" quote was so obvious, it didn't even deserve a response. It's kind of like, "Man and wife! Say 'man and wife!'" Waaay too obvious.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 05/31/2002 - 9:34am.
Archived comment by steff:
don't get used to it, caleb... i'm pretty fickle. =) phase 2 will have me swooning all over again tho, i'm sure. and i'm going to have "audacity, always audacity" tattooed on me somewhere. i can't even count the times the spirit of that phrase has gotten me in somewhere or doing something i had no business being or doing, or out of trouble after same.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 05/31/2002 - 7:58am.
Archived comment by Anna:
"Blessed are the cheese makers"... wasn't that from "Life of Brian"?

Regarding 'defence' - it happens to mean something specific in English literary theory, if anyone cares to know. But then again, don't ask me --- just because I'm studing it at the moment and getting good grades in it doesn't mean I actually _know_ what I'm talking about. I just rehash information and tell them what they want to here :-)
Anyway.... blame it on too many assignment...

I'll just go back to lurking now...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 3:51pm.
Archived comment by Montygirl:
Ooh, Matt! You need to check out the comment thread about Eve's purse getting stolen. Should be some helpful hints there!

And godbless the Monty Python boys!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 2:13pm.
Archived comment by Caleb:
Re: steff, I've never been somebody's hero before! *blushes*
Keep an eye out for Phase Two, eventually...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 11:40am.
Archived comment by Matt:
Well, Eve, I went through all the main-page comments you've included to your postings since day 1, and other than the unusual-but-not-actually-British spelling of "barbecue" as "barbeque," I only found "burnt" instead of "burned," July 18, 2001, although on August 1st of that year you also used the term "grand fun," which is about as American as Yorkshire Pudding. "Defence" is the British spelling, and I probably could've come up with several more if I'd bothered to read all the comments you've made within the comments, but seeing as how I have to spend the day getting my life back together (my wallet was stolen last week out of my room while I was asleep) and packing for my eminent move to a summer sublet, I don't have the time.

Granted, I use a fair number of British-type terms now and then, but I have an entire quadrant of my brain devoted to Monty Python, et al.



Blessed are the cheese makers...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 11:35am.
Archived comment by Annie:
I'm never relevant enough on this site.. *pained look*...okay, here's one! Re: band names; Garbage, Hole, etc...but have you heard of "Urine Love". Now, when this guy first told me his band name, my brain heard, "You're In Love". Okay...cute. But noooo... he explained the spelling and said it was neat little play-on-words. "U-R-IN-LOVE...Then we added an 'e'. GET IT? Do you get it?" Uh-huh...yeah, I guess so...

Like "Beatles" instead of "Beetles"; you know, like the Crickets, but with a "beat"...*rolling eyes* whacka whacka whack...those crazy musicians and their wild names...

Then he told me their website addy and warned me NOT to forget to go to dot NET, and don't ever ever ever go to dot com. If you screw up and go to their website.COM, you get a crash course in whole 'nother perspective. Eeeeek! I mean...live and let live, but...wow! Who knew?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 10:54am.
Archived comment by Shade:
...but the kids should help take out the garbage on Thursday nights.

(er, is that close enough for relevancy?)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 10:53am.
Archived comment by Shade:
I worked my way through school, and didn't own a car until I needed it to drive to work--and I say that as long as they're properly appreciative for what they have (and maybe a tad sympathetic with those who don't), it's _good_ that some parents are able to give their kids things.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 10:46am.
Archived comment by Annie:
re: Berkeley student guilt: even if mommy and daddy DO foot the bill and you don't have to have a part-time job, and you're lucky enough to drive a BMW or whatever, so what? I'd be very happy to go to Berkeley and drive a nice car; what's wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with having money. Or even spending it! It's the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil, not money itself...if someone offered me the chance to go to college for free and threw in a nice car to boot, I'd say, "Whoooo-Hooooo! Thanks!" :-)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 10:12am.
Archived comment by Obsidiana:
People (like Bryan) have mentioned my Anglicized spelling before. Honestly, I just read lots of books written and published in the UK when I was little, and now I can't break the habit.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 7:12am.
Archived comment by slugbuggy:
"Defence," maybe? I always assumed she was Lithuanian/Creole/Welsh/Maori but I realise I might be a little off on that one. Happens sometimes.

I think Manson is blowing smoke up someone's arse. You'd have to really be bollock-brained, a real daftie not to have prefered a pash with a dollybird like that, respect or no, what?

Anyway, there goes our little DB out into the wide world. Take a jumper, it's cold out there. *sniffle* Except for the off-colour stuff and the direct insults, our little iconaclast was quite humourous at times.

Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 05/30/2002 - 12:19am.
Archived comment by Eve:
Matt, I'll be elusive on my origins, but out of curiosity, how is my spelling Anglicized? :-)

And I suddenly feel the need to be defensive about my status as a Berkeley student despite my earlier comments -- but I think I've already mentioned that I work two (sometimes three) jobs, and part of that money is to pay for the upkeep of this site. Bently? That's hyperbolic to the point of not even being cutting, but instead ridiculous. I ride the same bike I had when I was 12, 4 or more miles every day.

(And it's uphill, both ways, in the snow, and I have to carry a three thousand pound backpack, and they don't let me wear shoes... Ok, see, that was a sarcastic voice. Yeah, I don't actually think I suffer any more than other folks, but my life isn't exactly posh.)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 8:52pm.
Archived comment by steff:
caleb, you're my new hero re: the political sign incident. *yay!*
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 8:40pm.
Archived comment by matt (no, the other one):
Matt: If it makes you feel anybetter, my friend george went to a show on that tour,(I think it was the Palladium in Worcester MA) and he had the exact same reaction. Albeit he is a di-hard garbage fan and went backstage as soon as Garbage finished.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 8:31pm.
Archived comment by umrguy:
Coupla things:

1. Mike, that site (well, the index) is very funny. Thanks for providing a link to it.

2. I also am not by any means a rich Cal student. In fact, I'm not even in CA, I go to the University of Missouri-Rolla, with very miminal support from my folks, and currently only the money I make as a TA getting me through.

3. I do have to agree with some of the others- while I typically find your comments to be pointless, Don, I do appreciate the level of education they indicate.

4. Best way to deal with trolls: mokusatsu - Japanese for "kill with silence". 'Nuff said.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 7:46pm.
Archived comment by Matt:
About six years ago, I saw the Smashing Pumpkins on their Mellon Collie tour (with someone replacing the heroin-addicted Jimmy Chamberlain, and it kind of saddens me to say that the opening act, Garbage, was so much better than the Pumpkins that the show was anticlimactic to say the least.

On another topic, has anyone else noticed how Anglicized Eve's spelling is? It makes one (okay, me) wonder where she or her parents are from originally. Intriguing...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 3:15pm.
Archived comment by Caleb:
Don, I salute you not for being a troll, but being a troll with better-than-average writing skills. Most flame-bait posters tend to be idiots with bad spelling and worse grammar, and it's refreshing to see somebody who can drive a forum into a frothing rage AND look good doing it.

On the other hand, I'm dissapointed that you automatically assumed everybody that likes this site is a rich berkley kid.

I go to a crappy community college, drive a used 1994 Ford Escort, and will eventually have to pay for every cent of higher education on my own(curse these high intrest student loans). I like In Passing. Thank you.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 2:48pm.
Archived comment by hypoxic:
Has anyone actaully figured out why Don rants and raves? Especially since he apparently doesn't know jack shit. Cause if he did he would realize CAL is a state school and therefore affordable to many people. The Bentleys and 250k/year parents are across the bay.

Oh well, FISH ON! Dance for me my sock puppet dance!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 1:52pm.
Archived comment by Don the Mon:
Hi my name's Don Mon and I'm a troll.

Contrary to popular belief I wasn't always a troll. Worts on my hyney? ...Yes, but troll? ..No.
In fact, I, like many of you abnormally large- brained filthy rich Berekeley students, despised and regarded the average troll with contempt. It all started when I came across this website and read comment after comment full non-sequitors considerably less than the required 49% relevancy standard. YOU ALL MADE ME WHAT I AM!!!

Now, the real reason most of you don't like me is because I speak the truth and "drop da knowledge" on you. You don't like it because the truth hurts, doesn't it "kids"?

Let me close with a statement straight out the hoods of Compton, CA. (a place that most of you will never see, except maybe from behind the tinted glass window of mommy and daddy's Bentley)

"Don't playa hate, appreciate" Ok? Thanks....
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 10:54am.
Archived comment by Eve:
Hey, kids, please don't feed the troll.

Someone who wants attention of any kind, even negative attention, is not going to stop being annoying because people point out that his arguments are ill-founded, or that he's posting under multiple names.

Though I am flattered and pleased at the number of folks who have jumped to In Passing's defence, I would advise people to take the high road, and ignore troublemakers.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 10:16am.
Archived comment by David.:
Isn't it amazing how many people spend so much time--voluntarily, no less--on this "incredibly not fun" site?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 10:11am.
Archived comment by Suplexia:
I remember the good 'ole days when you could get a 50 cent word for a nickel!

Oh...and I think I'd much rather get a kiss from Shirley Manson than her admiration.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 7:40am.
Archived comment by Don the Mon:
1.) Shelly = Very Cool

2.) Jenny = Nerd

3.) Inpassing = Incredibly not fun

P.S.
Mike, we question your usage and appropriateness of the cartoon "young and male" boy's rear-end. A little odd if you ask me. But what do I know??
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 5:50am.
Archived comment by steff:
*snicker* hey there marla. we missed ya. i can't afford that many $1 words myself. =)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 05/29/2002 - 12:57am.
Archived comment by Marla:
Shirley Manson is perhaps one of the coolest chicks in rock (though in other fields of music, Deborah Conway is pretty close!)

Shelly:

Ah Shelly. Poor, sweet, misguided Shelly. I implore you, please continue to vent your spleen. For there is nothing more beautiful than to listen to the music that is the voice of the proletariat. How I love to hear that distant voice drifting from over the hills to we middle-class tools of the capitalist system. Give me but a short time and I will write an Inpassing self criticism and convert to your way, the way of the people. For most obviously the dialectic of Inpassing is most imperiously elite.


OK, well maybe I've been reading too much Che guevara at the bookshop where I work. And maybe too much Mao, Lennin, Marx etc etc. But actually, despite Eve's most wonderful In Passing rules, I found Shelly's rant quite entertaining, if not hilarious. In fact, I would like to thank her for giving me this opportunity to indulge in some Australian National University $1 words that I borrowed from the Socialists and the Debating Society. Do vent your spleen more often Shelly: it has diverted me from the stress of research most effectively.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 11:05pm.
Archived comment by Ruby:
Dammit! Garbage was at the Warfield and I didn't even know it? I miss living in the city. I had to move, and even though I'm less than two hours away, I feel like I'm in a completely different country.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 7:29pm.
Archived comment by RosanaDana:
Well, if Ms. Manson has nothing else, she has tact. Usually, the singer just laughs, makes a snide comment, or sometimes spits. Believe me...I've been in the crazy fan a few times...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 3:40pm.
Archived comment by IP devotee:
Did everyone remember to read this when they first came to this site?

Eve said it best: "You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use the comment system to post any material which is knowingly defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, otherwise violative of any law, or just plain mean.

Although In Passing is not responsible for the content of any of these messages, Admin reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever. I consider myself to be a levelheaded person, opposed to censorship in general -- but I have no desire for my regular readers, the people who visit the site and post intelligent, interesting comments, to be subjected to verbal abuse by another poster."

Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 3:24pm.
Archived comment by Montygirl:
Yes, so please let us nerds alone so we may up-stage each other with big 50-cent Berkeley words and fancy punctuation.

Thank you, and good day.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 2:49pm.
Archived comment by Mistegirl:
Um, Shelly, if you don't like this site there are about 5 billion others out there you could be insulting.....
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 1:39pm.
Archived comment by Mike:
(...Which didn't work. Curse you, title tag! I will master you!)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 1:38pm.
Archived comment by Mike:
Julia Roberts is a hooker?!?

You gotta admire Manson's ability to recognize and disengage herself from people who may not have her best interests in mind; it takes real tact. A lesson that could also be applied when dealing with a certain someone. Trolls get bored and/or deleted. Until then, just let the blatant idiocy slide.

Cause you can answer anyone, but you don't necessarily admire them.

(I admit it: I really just wanted to try this html thingie.)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 1:33pm.
Archived comment by Jenny:
Oh my god, please tell me you are just trying to be ironic, and are secretly one of the Berkely-attending, Buffy-loving, computer geek types.

If you are actually being serious, get over yourself.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 1:25pm.
Archived comment by Shelly:
Hey JENNY!!

This "non-sequitor" was inserted for the purpose of bringing attention to the fact that the aforementioned non-sequitors are:

1) Not funny;

2) Boring;

3) And are pathetic attempts for rich nerds to up-stage each other with big 50-cent Berkeley words and fancy punctuation!

'Ya Heard??
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 1:00pm.
Archived comment by Jenny:
...and Shelly's quote has exactly what to do with Garbage?

Hello Kettle? I'd like you to meet Pot.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 12:28pm.
Archived comment by Shelly:
Is this a site for "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Freaks or for things heard in passing??

Listen up Eggheads!!!

None of you dweebs know how to have fun, all you do is talk about BTVS, html coding, star wars, captain Kirk, quantum physics and the fastest ways to circum-navigate the globe. Don the Mon may be a troll but he's more entertaining than most of you!!

Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 11:16am.
Archived comment by Shade:
So she admires him for having the courage to get her flowers?

Or is she snowing him to get out of bussing a psycho fan?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 05/28/2002 - 11:14am.
Archived comment by hypoxic:
But what about if you're a hooker like Julia Roberts? Then you can't kiss anyone either.
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