13 February 2001
Submitted by eve on Wed, 02/14/2001 - 3:45pm. Wisdom
"Fetuses all look kind of similar."
--A girl in my MCB class, muttering to herself during lecture.
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Posted by Anne Onymous on Sun, 02/25/2001 - 2:43pm.
Archived comment by steff:
feet-twah, i think. feti sounds too much like
'yeti'. although......

have you noticed that human babies are the only
babies that aren't unbearably adorable, at least
after a few days? (hey, NObody looks good covered
in placenta. ask mike.) i firmly believe that cute
is a survival tactic, and frankly, i don't know
how our species has made it. 'course, after
sitting in front of the world's stupidest man at
the hockey game the other night, i wonder if we
have, but that's another rant. *smirk* but, i
mean, baby RHINOS are cute... in a decidedly
non-cuddly sort of way. so what's with the bawling
pink things? maybe helplessness, in a perverse
sort of way, is more of a survival tactic than
cute. which explains a lot of marriages. =)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Sat, 02/17/2001 - 8:27pm.
Archived comment by Jon:
Ok, dfresh. One of my friends is a Latin
teacher, too - I chatted with her while she was
grading homework. If I weren't so antisocial, I
would be doing the same thing... : ) Oh, and
the patience with children thing. I don't have
that either.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Sat, 02/17/2001 - 3:53pm.
Archived comment by dfresh:
We don't get to kill him? Oh man... (upon the advice of legal counsel, I must state that the previous line was not serious, and was only intended for humor purposes.)
Speaking of you making some cash, what is up with the PAYPAL idea? Is that set up, and I just missed it, or is it still TBD?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Sat, 02/17/2001 - 11:55am.
Archived comment by Eve:
Eh, I think Passerby/LongTimeLurker was just teasing, and my response was pretty much kidding too. No worries, all is good. :-)

(What, cult leader, me? I should start a pyramid scheme while people are listening to me...)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 11:29pm.
Archived comment by dfresh:
wow, I'll have to mention this site to my old high school Latin teacher so he can prove to the student that Latin IS useful.
And Eve, ya'd think LongTimeLurker would know this site is almost a cult, and you NEVER threaten a cult leader. Enraged cultists are dangerous.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 9:50pm.
Archived comment by Passerby:
Eve, umrguy;
Bested on my own game. I entirely forgotten about that. Guess, I'm not a CS major, so, I excuse myself.
I thought at first umrguy is a pseudoname indicating hesitation ummmr ... guy.
Apologies.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 1:36pm.
Archived comment by Joe:
Ah, Jon, I bow to your clearly more extensive Latin education. 8)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 12:08pm.
Archived comment by Jon:
Hehe, that hasn't stopped me, has it?
I mostly don't include my email address because I'm lazy. Also, because nobody from IP has mailed me - unless there are some mass-mailing spammers among you?
(If so, I'll have to get all "Bun-Bun on telemarketers" on your ass!)

The laziness extends to websites, too. My home website is pretty bare, so you wouldn't really see anything. I do link to an interesting site every once in a while though... as with the entertaining cartoon above. Almost as nifty as Sluggy!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 10:58am.
Archived comment by umrguy:
It's not like some of us are trying to hide information from anybody, though, Eve. In my case, I include my real email address, and several times I've put up a link to my homepage, which has some pictures of me on it. I just use the name umrguy to differentiate myself, as my first name is pretty common, and I kinda like the sound of it.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 9:52am.
Archived comment by Eve:
LongTimeLurker, I've never made a secret of the town that I live in or the classes that I attend, nor the cafes I frequent. Why? Because there are 30,000 students at Berkeley. So while yes, you do have information about me, it's all info I'm fine with everyone having.
...On the other hand, have you ever thought about how much information I have about you? An IP address is rather concrete knowledge to have. *smiles sweetly*
Yeah, let's not play that game anymore. :-)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 8:02am.
Archived comment by Arlene:
Ceallach,
After a certain age babies stop looking all alike & started getting different from each other. & sympathies on your loss. At least you are there to give her daughter a loving home.

I've seen some incredibly cute babies & some that I keep hoping will grow out of, or maybe it's into, their looks. There was one poor, sweet kid who looked like a troll doll for 2 years (age 1 to 3). I haven't seen her since, but I'm hoping that she grew out of that phase.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 02/16/2001 - 7:07am.
Archived comment by Jon:
If people were penalized on IP for changing the mood, nothing would be written! Thank you for sharing a personal moment with us.


Now, Joe, I was *resisting* doing this, but my alternate suggestion would be a fifth-declension noun(masculine or feminine)... unfortunately, I can't get a long vowel symbol in plain text, but I can fake it.
_
fetus, fetus
(that would be pronounced, "feet-oos", if anyone cares)

Hehe, overeducated oneupmanship!
Besides, a "feet oy" sound seemed appropriate for the disgusting afterbirth comments...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 10:47pm.
Archived comment by Ceallach:
My best friend Jenny gave birth to a beatiful baby girl almost two years ago. Unfortunatly, my friend was killed by a drunk driver on her way home from her job when her daughter was two months old. So, I was given custody of her precious angel (she didn't have any family.) Although, everyone seems to think that all babies look alike, I am comforted by the thought that babies have their own unique "look" to them. Everytime I look at my god daughter, I am reminded of Jenny. Her daughter looks alot like her and has the same facial expressions that Jenny used to have.

Sorry, didn't mean to bring anyones mood down, but I miss my friend very much.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 8:31pm.
Archived comment by dfresh:
Surprisingly enough, Winston Churchill looks a lot like my brother's baby. Everyone comments on it.
Too true, Arlene, too true. Lets treat all kids as just kids until 10 or so. SO annoyed seeing parents take their baby girl out with earrings, and I saw one with lipstick and some other stuff on...the thing was like 4 months! Yeah, very bored parents, but still...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 7:12pm.
Archived comment by Honey:
Yeah, but who does Winston Churchill look like?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 4:28pm.
Archived comment by Joe:
Jon, I also employ IMFFHO (far from). 'cause it's true. ;)
Terry PRatchett slipped a joke about IMHO into one of his books... people are having a discussion in the background, and a character thinks that there "really isn't any such thing as a humble opinion." I love that man.

Now my Latin skills kick in. Fetoi is cool, and fetoe would also work (the oe diphthong is "oy" in latin). But if we treat fetus as a second-declension masculine noun, thenthe plural should be "feti." Which is also kind of uncomfortable to say, unless you pronounce it as a latin word ("fey-tee," methinks).

As for what babies look like... mostly Winston Churchhill, I believe.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 12:37pm.
Archived comment by Jon:
If you want an alternative to IMHO, try IMNSHO(NS=not so). Sure it's unwieldy, but that only makes it more geek-friendly...

Speaking of unwieldy, "fetuses" is a bit of a tongue-tripper. How about fetoi? (I would pronounce it "feet - oy")
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 10:59am.
Archived comment by Arlene:
Sorry, some days even preview doesn't help.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 10:58am.
Archived comment by Arlene:
Kids look the same, sex-wise, until the hormones kick in & puberty starts affecting them. IMHO (humble, yeah right), we should dress boys & girls alike until about age 10 & treat them the same, differentiating only according to personality. Screw the whole tomboy/sissy thing. Other than culturation & plumbing, there's not a lot of difference in which is which until that whole puberty thing.

& I think that stoned look comes from sensory overload. "Everything is sooo differenct from Mom's womb. I had no idea. Hey, what's that?"
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 10:20am.
Archived comment by Matt:
Good lord, JP, that's almost as astounding as when I saw photos (taken by an orderly) of my mother's 8-pound ovarian cyst.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 9:31am.
Archived comment by JP:
One friend came to visit me a year or so ago. He was a very recent father, so the baby photos were (sigh) only to be expected.

The *afterbirth* photos, on the other hand, were a little more surprising.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 8:58am.
Archived comment by Mike:
Hey, she said _fetuses_, not _babies_! And I disagree. You can tell fetuses apart on sight. It just takes practice. You need to know a lot of pregnant women. And own a decent flashlight.
How odd. I've managed to disgust *myself*.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 7:43am.
Archived comment by Montygirl:
"Oh, Mrs. Johnson, you have a lovely baby. He has your husband's mouth."

"Yes, but he has his father's eyes."


Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 5:18am.
Archived comment by LongTimeLurker:
Hah! We know now where Eve lives, the classes that she attends, places where she hangs out. Rather than being scared of her eavesdropping on our conversations, shouldn't she be scared of having her identity revealed?

Don't worry, Eve. I live many, many miles away from you.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 4:45am.
Archived comment by nightfever:
ok, why do people think that their kid looks different to any other kid?
well, besides maybe that reason, but putting aside the differences between the sexes, all babies look the same!

And the first person who mentions pink and blue clothing gets it in the neck!

;-)

Babies are ugly...all of them...but they are ugly in a kinda cute and squishy way.
Like that joke:

q: How do you make a pound of useless fat look interesing?

a: put a nipple on it!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 02/15/2001 - 2:12am.
Archived comment by languid lurker:
sorry to be anal, but being of the "other" bio here at Cal (integrative bio, also referred to as "the easy bio" or "the lesser bio" but i think MCB sux and is just a bunch of memorization), where was i going with this? ah yes... being such, i know all too well that MCB is "Molecular & Cell Bio" not micro...

god i'm out've it... brain fried from CS midterm, and staying up to write an english paper, on NO coffee...

glorious day everybody...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 02/14/2001 - 9:53pm.
Archived comment by dfresh:
Ah, always the hard question, who does it look like. Also hard is "Isn't he/she adorable?" No...not really.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 02/14/2001 - 9:26pm.
Archived comment by umrguy:
Some friends of mine had a baby the other year, and looking at the first picture of him, trying to decide which of his parents he looked like more, I came to the sad conclusion that I thought he looked a bit more like his grandfather than his parents at that point.

*sigh* I never mentioned that to my friends, of course, and I stopped trying to decide who he looks like more
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 02/14/2001 - 9:02pm.
Archived comment by Matt:
MCB is micro cellular biology. At Cal, it's pretty much the major for pre-meds. What they don't tell you is that, almost without exception, the only class MCB has that helps prepare you for med school is organic chemistry. This info comes to me (and, vicariously, to you) courtesy of someone who got an MCB degree from Cal, went on to medical school, and then expressed her general dissatisfaction with the recommendation of MCB as an effective med school preparatory program.

God I wish I had more to say about the quote, but she's right. It's also true that most infants look like Winston Churchill, but no one ever talks about that. Oh, and from about three months old to a year and three months old, babies spend almost all of the consciousness looking stoned.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 02/14/2001 - 6:48pm.
Archived comment by dfresh:
I really hope its a biology class. That would really be a bad thing to bring in for show and tell in another class.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 02/14/2001 - 4:39pm.
Archived comment by umrguy:
Site Goddess, what's MCB? Some kind of biology course?
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