13 April 2004
Submitted by eve on Tue, 04/13/2004 - 9:53pm. Funny
"His phrasing is weird, it's offbeat. He's not pausing at the commas. Hear that? Wait a minute... Dude, he's pausing at the big words."
--A girl watching Bush's press conference on the TV in the lobby of my hotel.
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Posted by Gravity on Mon, 04/26/2004 - 12:09pm.
You're damn right! He's W.(alker), Texas Ranger!
Posted by Intelligirly on Mon, 04/19/2004 - 6:06am.
Apple keeps getting my points.

"Why doncha come up and see me sometime?"

I love Mike!
The main problems with politics
Posted by hypoxic on Sat, 04/17/2004 - 6:10pm.
is that there is a huge bias towards national level control when it should be much more geared towards a granular local level. And also people should let people be. The government interferes to much.
Spoken like...
Posted by ParU on Mon, 04/19/2004 - 8:16pm.
a Republican!!!
or a Libertarian.
It's Amino world without Chemists
Posted by hypoxic on Tue, 04/20/2004 - 9:37am.
or an independent. I'm gathering you would be scared by my views.

BTW so do you still thing Iraq was a good decision? and that Bush should still be our leader?
*runs and hides*
Posted by Shade on Tue, 04/20/2004 - 2:29pm.
Not even lunch-time lurking is safe enough with a question like that!
So, did you hear about the Ea
Posted by brian65401 on Tue, 04/20/2004 - 2:28pm.
So, did you hear about the Easter Egg hunt in Iraq? They haven't found any eggs yet but there is solid evidence they existed and the search continues.
Posted by Penny on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 3:06pm.
close? close? closed? It previews as closed, but posts as em.
*looking askanse*
Posted by paul on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 5:22pm.
Is that Penny, as in... the Penny who used to post here all the time who has been missing for months? That Penny?...

paul is not our savior.
paul is known as 'silk' to all who know and love him.
paul is a past master at floating progressive.
paul is that man.
Posted by ParU on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 8:02pm.
The long lost Penny?
It's Amino world without Chemists
Wait a minute
Posted by Mike on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 7:13am.
If she keeps turning up does that mean she's bad?

Sorry. I'll be over here.
Posted by Penny on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 11:09am.
It's me. Since no one else can have my login, as far as I know, you can be sure it's me.
The italics seem to show in the flat list but not the threaded. Which makes more sense.

And Mike? Yes.
Being bad...
Posted by ParU on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 7:58pm.
My all time favorite 'being bad' quote (you really have to say it in the correct accent to get the full effect):
When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm better
one cool pt.
It's Amino world without Chemists
That would be
Posted by Apple on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 8:44pm.
Mae West.

Isn't Apple ineligible ...
Posted by ParU on Sat, 04/17/2004 - 1:34pm.
for cool pts? (Cause she's got the world's largest supply of them). Nicely done, my fine fruited friend. It was such an old quote that I thought I might stump some of y'all.
It's Amino world without Chemists
Posted by Apple on Sat, 04/17/2004 - 1:48pm.
You banned me from Loonies, not cool points. And, thank you. As I've stated before, my dad made us learn a whole bunch of pop culture, including, but not limited to old movies and their stars. Well, maybe he didn't make us learn, but he sure quoted that stuff a lot!
Posted by Matt on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 10:54pm.
I prefer:

"I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."

No cool points. Too easy.
Jessica Rabbit
Posted by ParU on Mon, 04/19/2004 - 8:14pm.
or Kathleen Turner...
But still a great line...
(why yes I do use the three dots waaaay too much. I've been channeling Herb Caen).
It's Amino world without Chemists
Can't do it
Posted by marinerd on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 10:43am.
I can't watch him speak any more. He's lying to me, I know he's going to keep lying to me, so why should I be fool enough to sit and watch him do it? And then have him smirk about it?

I saw an interesting item today that pointed out that Bush has been away from Washington DC for approximately 40% of his term so far. (at his ranch, at Camp David, on retreat, etc.) He's exceeded all his predecessors in vacation time. Maybe if he'd stayed on vacation 100% of the time, we'd be in a bit less of a mess than we are now?
Random Quote
Posted by Desert Fox on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 11:27am.
"I heard that Reagan was asleep when the planes was happenin'. I don't think that's a bad thing. I think it's great to have a sleepin' president. The more he sleeps, the safer we are."

-- Arlo Guthrie

"Life is too short for grief. Or regret. Or bullshit." -- Edward Abbey, Vox Clamantis in Deserto
Posted by peegee on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 2:56am.
If speeches are that important, how do the deaf make up their minds ?
Posted by Apple on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 5:17am.
They go on content rather than inflection, I guess. Maybe more people should just read the speeches.
Poster Child
Posted by Pizza Delivery Guy on Wed, 04/14/2004 - 9:42pm.
I have a poster in my room with a lot of Bushisms on it. They're funny, and pick me up when i'm down. It only cost me $7. That's more than I can say for the war. . .
Get me a bigger poster
Posted by Jon on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 6:32am.
Hmm, I don't have a pithy poster to do it, but I do have access to tons of Kerry quotes where he contradicts himself. In the same sentence.

I empathize with umrguy.
If only Lieberman had more charisma (so he'd be a contender), he would have had my vote. Even though I disagreed with him about his various media censorship policies, he was the closest match to my political views. *sigh*
Hold Out
Posted by Pizza Delivery Guy on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 9:05am.
I'd say hold out, or change, the people you would vote for.

here's a link to a picture of the poster:
Posted by hypoxic on Wed, 04/14/2004 - 5:35pm.
I am still in the firm belief that he is an idiot. To bad I can't vote for Kerry either. Oh well I live in California so I can throw away my vote! Go Libertarians!
The problem is that
Posted by umop apisdn on Wed, 04/14/2004 - 8:50pm.
they are all idiots. I went to this political information site that asks you a bunch of questions, and then tells you how you match up against the various candidates and their parties.

My opinions are only a 45% match to Bush's. And he was the BEST MATCH to me! Howard Dean came in 2nd at 38% and Kerry only matchs 18%.

So like it or not, I have to vote for the shrub. Sigh...

A precariously balanced mixture of myopic optimism and rampant paranoia.
Sad state of affairs
Posted by Social Neanderthal on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 9:25am.
Voting today is kinda like putting on a blindfold and drinking from one of several glasses of poison set out in front of you. Each glass of poison will make you ill at some point over the next few years, but you don't know how sick you will get, when you will get sick, or how long it will last.

Nevertheless, we need to keep voting until the poison is completly diluted.
You could always get off your
Posted by anoname on Thu, 04/15/2004 - 5:23pm.
You could always get off your butt and support your own candidate when the time was right, or write to Congresspeople concerning issues you think are important, devote $1/day to political causes (that's $365 at the end of the year to whatever cause you like),
but hey, no one likes reason at a bitch-fest
Reason + Politics = ??
Posted by Social Neanderthal on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 11:20am.
Reason and Politics go together? That's an interesting theory.

Another theory is anyone seeking political office is suspect because they either have some hidden [or not so hidden] agenda or don't understand the requirements of the job.

The good candidates get run off because of the character assasination they and their families have to go through from the professional candidates and the media.

And I don't believe in giving money to political parties or candidates, I think it should be illegal. My version of campaign finance reform would require all candidates have access to the same pool of money, outlaw mentioning other candidates in campaign ads, require participation in candidate debates at least every other week, submit a resume listing the community service and improvement projects the candidate has participated in, and require candidates to write essays in a monitored setting [to confirm they at least put the words on paper themselves] detailing what issues they view as important and how they plan to work through them.

And yes, I keep in touch with my "representatives" and I have the form letters to prove it. Unfortunately, most "representatives" come from a voting district designed to spit out a candidate of a particular demographic and keep the 2 party system chugging along, so they don't really represent who you think they do.

I keep hoping Ben Franklin will be reincarnated, but the odds are pretty slim. In the meantime, I'll just do what I can to help out in my own little community.
Posted by marinerd on Wed, 04/21/2004 - 2:12pm.
I totally agree that campaign contributions should be illegal and candidates should share a pool of money. Perhaps our public airwaves could air an equal number of ads from all qualifying candidates for no charge (after all, it's not like it happens all that often). That would cut down on the cost of running for office. Anyway, my cave person friend, we can keep hoping.

And when it comes to politics, I do participate by writing letters and voting and doing all that stuff. Last Saturday was the Bake Sale for Democracy, where there were bake sales all over the country with the proceeds going to help defeat Bush. My favorite name for one of the sales was the No-CARB (Cheney-Ashcroft-Rumsfeld-Bush) Bake Sale. Another good one was Hippies Against Hoodlums (HAH!) People are so funny.
Posted by hypoxic on Fri, 04/23/2004 - 9:41am.
Campaign contributions are already from a central pool. You just have to recieve enough votes to get it.
Posted by Saint on Fri, 04/23/2004 - 12:15pm.
I'm pretty sure they're talking about the private contributions--the checks sent in by individual people or groups who want to make sure their pony crosses the finish line first--rather than the govt funds available. Bush's campaign has a lot more funding than Kerry's (even though Kerry is actually the richer of the two...gotta love those rich heiresses), and thus can put a lot more smear into the smear campaign.
Oh Ok.
Posted by hypoxic on Sat, 04/24/2004 - 5:25pm.
I guess that makes a bit more sense. Though each person is limited to a relatively small amount, $2000. I'm guessing that people are more worried about the soft money. Which doesn't have a limit. Or it just has a new limit that isn't that low.
2 K is small?
Posted by Jon on Tue, 04/27/2004 - 8:13am.
Za? I don't know about you, but I don't throw around 2 grand for nothing...
Posted by hypoxic on Tue, 04/27/2004 - 9:37am.
I did put in the modifier of relatively :)
Words to live by
Posted by steff on Tue, 04/27/2004 - 9:47am.
yes, size is relative.
Why that sounds...
Posted by ParU on Thu, 04/29/2004 - 8:05pm.
like an innuendo. From steff???? Whoda thunk it?
And if any of y'all want to donate 2k to a good cause, I can think of a few.
It's Amino world without Chemists
Posted by Apple on Wed, 04/21/2004 - 5:52pm.
I really wouldn't recommend voting for somebody based solely on the fact that they are not someone else. Check out who the candidates are, and then decide. Blindly voting for faces can lead to utter sucky badness. Seriously.
Or what's worse...
Posted by ParU on Wed, 04/21/2004 - 10:18pm.
Is voting for the 'name' (such as the widow/widower of an official) or the all time worst - voting 'cause I liked their name' (usually a racist reason, even if it is subconscious).
It's Amino world without Chemists
What about...
Posted by umrguy on Thu, 04/22/2004 - 5:44am.
Voting for a dead guy? (Which was not my vote, btw.)

-There's someone in my head, but it's not me.-
Wasn't that...
Posted by ParU on Thu, 04/22/2004 - 7:06pm.
who beat John Ashcroft in that state that's in the middle of nowhere?
It's Amino world without Chemists
Posted by umrguy on Thu, 04/22/2004 - 9:34pm.
And Mel was from the Rolla area, by the way (speaking of Rolla, either her or on a different thread, I forget). In fact, his wife, now former Senator Jean Carnahan, was the guest speaker at the commencement where I received my BS. (Can't say I paid much attention, I was fairly tired, although not as tired as last May when receiving my MS, when I was falling asleep during the speech because I'd been up all night attempting to pack to go home. We don't really get the "cool" speakers at Rolla, anyway.)

-There's someone in my head, but it's not me.-
Posted by umrguy on Thu, 04/22/2004 - 9:32pm.
Yup, that's the one, the Late Great Martyr Mel. &lt/sarcasm&gt

-There's someone in my head, but it's not me.-
Posted by umrguy on Fri, 04/16/2004 - 5:26pm.
There's a theory that Franklin may not have been such a wise political sage as he seemed (I've heard that there are accounts that basically, he kept his mouth shut until an agreement was mostly reached, and then supported that agreement... although maybe that's politically wise, too. I dunno).

And as far as quotes go, here's a classic:

The major problem - one of the major problems, for there are several - one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.

To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must
want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem.

-There's someone in my head, but it's not me.-
For heaven's sake...
Posted by umrguy on Wed, 04/14/2004 - 4:36pm.
...it's not like he's got Shatner's delivery.

And to be fair, you try delivering a speech on national/international television to 290 million+ viewers, see if that doesn't make you in the least bit nervous.

And for the record, I rarely watch speeches, whether I voted for the person or not.

-There's someone in my head, but it's not me.-
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