Archived comment by Saint:
I already looked close, Monk (hey, if you're going to protest the soft-porn links, you've gotta know what they are. lol), and that's pretty much what I was talking about. Breasts, like hands and feet, tend to have one larger one out of the pair. But usually not so much larger as to be immediately noticable.

Archived comment by Monk:
I've seen Santa's picture many times before. It's no-one here - it's a pirated pic in order for some 13 year old to induce women to send him pics of their chests. (or so goes his plan)

And saint - look closely (you know you want to) - the right areola is larger than the left. Also the cup size is dramatically larger on the left. And yes, I am well aware that any given pair are the exact same size - but her's are quite noticeable.

That being said, if you'd like a private commentary on your boobies, please send a pic.

Archived comment by steff:
that's what I said, so i'm sticking to it. i've already said too much. if i disappear, remember me fondly. =)

Archived comment by Saint:
Hey! I thought we were all friends here. *pout* Lemme in on the secret, I won't tell no one, I promise!

Archived comment by steff:
right on all counts, bluggernut, but you're overthinking it. just go look at the pretty pictures. *grin*

i know at least one ip poster does, in fact, have a pro modeling secret in their past.

Archived comment by slugbuggy:
Is Santa suggesting that the person in the pic is actually someone they know to be an IP poster? The pic looks too professional to be just an amateur shot that got sent in to a "rate my face/chest/etc. site. More than likely it's just a random softcore porn pic off the web, and the person who submitted it to the site has no idea who it is. Unless someone here has a modeling past, and Santa is aware of it, and knows that that person posts here, I'm not buying it. Anyone who's familiar with this site enough to know any of the posters would know how to spell "Monk" anyway, unless the bad spelling is meant to conceal his/her identity.

"Santa" might actually be the girl in the pic herself, though, but I doubt that.

Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Thank you Saint - IMHO linking to pseudo porn sites isn't as bad as all the language, mostly because you have to take that extra step to click the link. But yes Eve doesn't want this place to become somewhere that high school kids are forbidden to visit (although perhaps we ought to institute an age requirement, though I know if we used a maturity requirement we'd eject about 50% of our frequent posters and you know who you are!).

So play nice kids and have fun.

Archived comment by Saint:
There's something a little off about the nips on that photo. Or maybe it's just me. You know, not to act like a hall monitor or anything, but if we keep linking to porn sites, Eve and the Unit might get a little pissed; there's no age requirement for being here, and I doubt Eve wants to be responsible for some little kid's traumatic introduction to sex. Wow, that was a long sentence.

Good point, Joe. All I can say is, again, I'm talking about the stereotype. Even if the stereotype is flat wrong for the majority of people. Surveys show that very few men find super-skinny models all that attractive; but that's still the image held up for stereotypical "beautiful." And nothing I've said takes into account personality--cause let's face it, when you're drooling over a celebrity, it isn't the cool personality and keen intelligence that sharpens your interest. And it was reading comments drooling over Vin Diesel that set me off on this line of thought to begin with, so that's the ground I'm holding. I'm not saying a good personality isn't attractive, or that you can't fall in love with someone and then become attracted to that person. Neither my wife nor myself is a petit vision of movie-star chic, but we're beautiful to each other. And I've totally lost where I was going with this, if I was ever going anywhere. Oh, well.

Archived comment by Matt:
All of them, Santa. That's all of them. And if I have to explain why, you wouldn't understand.

Archived comment by Jon:
Gosh, Santa brought me a present early, and I usually look under the Hanukkah bush instead! Nice boobies.

Archived comment by Intelligirly:
Yeah, I'm not a hipbone girl, myself. Arms, oh yeah. A good back, sure. Hipbones, looks like it would dislocate at any time. Odd. Ooh, and I like good hands. Yeah....

I think I should leave now.

Archived comment by steff:
i will not launch headlong into a 3 page rant on male/female beauty, i will launch headlong into a 3 page rant on male/female beauty, i will not launch headlong into a 3 page rant on male/female beauty...

i will say - katrina, i luuuuuuv that spot! clawnibbledrool.

and that's not me. i would never be that tan.

Archived comment by Joe Napalm:
I dunno, Saint.

Maybe it's just me...I've been told a thousand times that I'm "not most guys". In any case, I personally don't find grotesquely-augmented and bone-thin to be particularly appealing.

A woman can spend a few hours a week keeping in shape, and be relatively fit and trim. She also has at her disposal all sorts of clothing and makeup designed to compliment whatever nature provided.

A guy...to look like most of these guys, you're talking about a huge amount of time and discipline. Heck, I'm the optimal weight for my height, I run miles and miles, I spend more of my free time than I care to in the gym...and I will never be built like Vin Diesel, or Wesley Snipes. Heck, Wesley used to be scrawny - but it's his job to look like that. It's as much genetic for a guy as it is for a girl - unless the guy is stupid enough to use 'roids, in which case the point is moot...cause the mission-critical hardware wouldn't be functional, anymore.

-Jn-
Efreeti Sophist

Archived comment by Intelligirly:
Saint, absolutely. First iimpressions are always important and unavoidable. However, a saying my friend told me came to mind. (I liked him at the time, so it wasn't very encouraging but it was generally true). "Women tend to be attracted to the men they fall in love with; men tend to fall in love with women they're attracted to."

So while sure, there are those of out there who haven't learned the idiocy of falling for someone solely on looks, I would hope that, by the time women are in their twenties, they may see a guy, think he's hot, start talking to him, realize he's a jerk, and walk away thinking, "He's not even that cute!" Not that guys don't do that, but I think perhaps it takes longer for them to look past the well-filled out shirt than women to look past the well coiffed head. *shrug* Just my thoughts.

Archived comment by Saint:
I'll agree that true beauty has little to do with a stereotypically perfect appearance--but then again, drooling over someone's body has little to do with true beauty. What's that old routine? Women say they aren't concerned with looks, but when's the last time you heard a girl say, "Wow! Check out the sense of humor on that complete stranger in the corner!"

I was just rambling about how men can actually achieve the stereotypical beauty with enough work--but seldom put in that work. Meanwhile, many women starve themselves to try and be thin enough, but end up flat-chested and bony-assed and still falling short of the stereotype unless they have the aid of plastic surgery. Just struck me, I don't know.

Archived comment by Jon:
Joe: "We're on a mission from God."

steff, I'm afraid you've just proved again your capacity as dominatrix... your *first* impulse was to use restraints! Not that I mind, really.

I'd volunteer to be ogled, but I'm not all that much to look at, really. My beauty is all in the (lack of) mind. %^)

Archived comment by Katrina aka officialPICgirl:
*molding a clay sluggy doll*

There, now you are an object.

Archived comment by Joe Napalm:
Yeah, well...you know what Chingachgook says...

*Grin*

-Jn-
Efreeti Sophist

Archived comment by slugbuggy:
Hey! No wonder I'm always confused. "Vin Diesel, *drool*," and "soccer players are hot," and so on, but at the same time, "not really concerned about a male's looks. It's all in the attitude." And "women's bodies are just more beautiful" (no argument there), but also "the preponderance of the female figure in art and popular culture shows the inherent tendency to reduce the female to a mere aesthetic object, something to be viewed and admired strictly for her physical attributes and then only as an abstract ideal, not as a concrete living entity," or something like that. Anyway, I wouldn't mind being objectified for a while.

Archived comment by Katrina aka officialPICgirl:
I agree. The female body is just nicer to look at, nude or otherwise. I love a guys shoulders and chest but that funny little divet around the hip area... what's is with that? You know the one I am talking about, where the torso connects to the hips. It looks like some one just cut and pasted two different animals together. Or like a Ken doll.

Archived comment by Joe Napalm:

Tim is El Chupacabra?

*raises an eyebrow*

-Jn-
Efreeti Sophist

Archived comment by slugbuggy:
"*dingdingdingdingding!!* and we HAVE a winner!!! ok, it had a little something to do with the fact that my isp was down, but really - my forte is twisting innocent remarks. a porn thread? too easy."

That was steff, way back in March, in response to something I'd said. So...well, just so. Thought I'd point it out. Deja vu, except taller and blonder. Steff had 5 dings in her compared to Igirl's 3, so that makes steff about 67% dingier, not that that's a bad thing.

Archived comment by Apple:
And here I was gonna say, "He's a profound horny little goat."

Archived comment by Penny:
Forget the sentence structure, Tim. That's the most bee-yoo-t-full thing you've said here! Makes me pretty certain that deep (deeeeep) down, you're not the horny little goat you seem to be. Or at least, you're not shallow about it. :)

Archived comment by Joe Napalm:

"I hate Illinois Nazis."

-Jn-
Efreeti Sophist

Archived comment by tim:
"...but beauty are the unique things...."
I know I know
call the sentence structure Nazi's

Archived comment by Monk:
I love it when you slap me. Cara mia!!

so you sent me a pic of Cebu topless?

Archived comment by tim:
Well, see, that's the difference between beauty and fantasy.
For me, anyway, the cookie cutter large breasted wasp waisted playboy centerfold is just...fantasy.
I find that beauty is in a laugh, the way she looks with her hair up, her well worn holey sweat shirt, the way she smells when she first gets out of the shower.
Fantasy is just curves and friction, but beauty are the unique things, the imperfections, if you will, that make a woman unique. and thus, beautiful

Archived comment by Intelligirly:
*slaps Monk* Wake up! You're dreaming again!

Archived comment by Monk:
Igirly - I agree completely. I've had the same conversation over the years, and I agree with everything you said.


btw - *whispers* thanks for that pic of you topless

Archived comment by Intelligirly:
I think there's another difference or two. Or maybe just a thought. One of the reasons that men often fantasize about women on women, women don't mind the idea, but the majority of people, leaving out those with a specific sexual orientation would really rather not fantasize about men with men.

Steff and I have discussed this and come to the conclusion it's because women's bodies are prettier. They're softer, curvier, and just lovelier to look at. Men's bodies--aren't. They're all angles and edges. Well, most of them. It's just not the same.Even when their beer bellies curve out over their belts. It doesn't mean it's not attractive in a powerful way--it's just a more pleasant sight on the female end of the spectrum. Maybe that's just us. :)

Archived comment by Saint:
Hey--that dancing girl (and a bunch of explosions and over-the-top ridiculous stunts) was about all the movie had going for it, if you aren't into drooling over Mark Vincent/Vin Diesel.


Slight tangent. I realized just recently the main difference between male beauty and female beauty.

Men can become beautiful with enough effort. The arrangement of their face is just not all that important, even to women, certainly not to other men. All they have to do is work out, and they achieve the male ideal. Take Vin Diesel, for example--he's balding, and his face is nothing to write home about, but women drool over him all the same.

Women, on the other hand, can't do much to achieve female beauty (in male eyes), outside of plastic surgery. You either have large breasts, or you don't. You either have a decent ass, or you don't. You either have a pretty face, or not. Working out doesn't help all that much, as it (for reasons only known to the devil) first tends to knock the fat out of the places you might actually want it.

Um, no point, just thought I'd share. Sometimes it's better not to share. Your parents just don't teach you that. I've only had an hour of sleep in the last 54, can you tell? (And no, no drugs to help me, or I might actually be coherant.)

Archived comment by Intelligirly:
Yeah, well, methinks you pinning his arms to his sides and wrestling with him has already brought up something to ogle, if you catch my drift. And I think eeeeevvvveryone does.

Archived comment by tim:
Selma Hayeck ( sp?) in
From Dusk Till Dawn
That was a nice dance........and the leg/toe tequila shot was........ ~ shudder~

Archived comment by steff:
*pins jon's arms to his side & wrestles him out of the way* you men get enough ogling ops. it's still our turn. unless you're volunteering for ogling detail.

Archived comment by Jon:
The girl dancing in Vin Diesel's bedroom in "XXX" - now *that* was a sight!
(Brought to you by the Equal Opportunity Ogling Consortium)

Archived comment by Intelligirly:
..."And if it's quite all right, I need you baaaby, to warm the lonely night..."

Heath Ledger dancing in the stands, man. Now THAT'S a good time.

Archived comment by steff:
.... i love you baa-aaby!!!!


one of the few times the entire theater has burst into song. and we actually sounded good.

Archived comment by Singin Monk:
You�re just too good to be true
Can�t take my eyes off you
You�d be like heaven to touch
I wanna hold you so much
At long last love has arrived
And I thank God I�m alive
You�re just too good to be true
Can�t take my eyes off you

Archived comment by Cebú:
My god, why do people do that nonsense to their teeth?? I think we may have some gold caps place at one of our malls here, which is stupid.
I had no idea how *sparkly* they could get.

The Hello Kitty one is quite tame in comparison. Heck, it's in a back tooth.

Archived comment by steff:
oh, no. i clicked on the link. joe, hon, c'mere. i have something to tell you... *takes his hands in hers, looks deep into his eyes...*

i hate you. =P

Archived comment by Joe Napalm:
Did someone say "tooth caps"?

Can't talk about caps without talking about Mr.Bling!

*Grin*

-Jn-
Efreeti Sophist

Archived comment by tim:
...And who doesn't enjoy that hm??
( yikes)

Archived comment by Cebu:
Aw, it's just a tooth cap. A Hello Kitty cap. It's only gross if you don't enjoy looking at fillings up close.

Archived comment by steff:
*blink* wha? cebu, you made monk say twisted and disgusting in a bad way. *blink* i'm not even going to think of clicking on that. the mind boggles.

Archived comment by Monk:
I'm eating!!!!

*shivering*

that was twisted and disgusting.

Archived comment by Cebu:
Okay, how about this freakish item[namelink]? It's the inside of a mouth, just so's you know.

That's just stupid. I'll stick with the (non-vibrating) toys and pens and things.

Archived comment by steff:
ok, the laptop is silly, but the site was funny. and... phkl??? hee! reminds me, somehow, of the 'f' pond. *grin*

Archived comment by tim:
A furry purple one

Archived comment by Cebu:
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!! No HK vibrator for me!