11 January 2003
Submitted by eve on Sun, 01/11/2004 - 11:16pm. Bizarre
"I hadn't seen him in forever... No, not really at all... Wasn't he the anti-sheep when we were at Lincoln?"
--A woman talking on a cell phone on Shattuck
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It's taken me twenty days to
Posted by Yuri on Sat, 01/31/2004 - 1:05pm.
It's taken me twenty days to realize this, but I finally noticed that the date on this entry is January 2003. In fact, three of the next entries say "2003" as well. (I didn't even notice that until I'd already posted this comment for the first time.)

Ah, yes, those keen powers of observation working for me again.
I just love Jim Henson. I wat
Posted by Cebu on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 7:49pm.
I just love Jim Henson. I watched the Muppet Show as a wee one, along with Sesame Street, and then Fraggle Rock when I was a little older. I love Muppet movies now, still.

Kermit is my (non-Sesame regular) fave. I have a Kermie head on my antenna, and a Fozzie one in case I feel like switching them around. Animal, Beaker and the Swedish Chef crack me up. I LOVE the Muppet Christmas Carol. Oooh, and Emmitt Otters Jug Band Christmas is a favorite from my childhood. You just can't go wrong with Muppets. Actually I have Muppet checks.

Why yes I can be a mature adult and have Muppet checks.
 
Mature...
Posted by ParU on Sat, 01/17/2004 - 10:35am.
Cebu's a mature adult????
 
Hmm
Posted by peegee on Sat, 01/17/2004 - 11:32am.
Don't tell me you've never met immature ones ?
Ahh
Posted by marinerd on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 3:58pm.
My favorite Muppets memory was when they showed the program every evening in the late 1970s. As soon as the first notes of the theme music started, my daughter (who was about 2 yrs old) would scream so loud with pure joy, it almost made up for the battered ear drums. She'd end up on a note only dogs could hear.

I could never decide who I liked better: Cookie Monster on Sesame Street for his naked desire (for cookies) coloring his every moment, or Animal on The Muppets for his uninhibited, uncomplicated happiness. I also was quite fond of the scientist (because he had glasses with no eyes behind them, which I still find hysterical!).
 
...
Posted by daen on Sat, 01/17/2004 - 12:21pm.
I attended an International Music Camp one summer in high school.
The primary common ground appeared to be not music, but Sesame Street.
I seem to recall hearing all manner of people singing "Oh, who are the people in your neighbourhood?", and seeing various people explaining the difference between "near" and "far" (complete with Grover-like flailing arms). Most amusing.

(I sang. I did not flail.)
It had to be done
Posted by Saint on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 1:31pm.
Since it's Friday, and since everyone's talking about Muppets:

It's not that easy being green;
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves.
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow or gold -
or something much more colorful like that.

It's not easy being green.
It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things.
And people tend to pass you over 'cause you're not standing out
like flashy sparkles in the water - or stars in the sky.

But green's the color of Spring.
And green can be cool and friendly-like.
And green can be big like an ocean,
or important like a mountain, or tall like a tree.

When green is all there is to be
It could make you wonder why, but why wonder why?
Wonder, I am green and it'll do fine, it's beautiful!
And I think it's what I want to be.
 
Heh.
Posted by daen on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 3:46pm.
The Muppets' Singalong crossed my desk today.

Guess what I'll be watching tonight.
(I shall be knitting a green sweater the while.)
Muppets
Posted by Kris the Girl on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 6:38am.
I never liked the Muppets. Or Sesame Street. Don't even get me started on Fraggle Rock--even as a wee lass, I thought it odd that they talked to the trash heap out back for advice. What IS that?
I loved Animaniacs, though. That show was hilarious.
My other favorites were cutesy and girly...like My Little Ponies, and She-Ra. But I still never liked puppetry. NOW I think I could prolly watch them and enjoy them, a little, but...neh. I'm not going out of my way to do so, I guess.
Posted by Matt on Mon, 01/12/2004 - 6:18pm.
I'm thinking this is another one of those rare cases where the person quoted knew they were being eavesdropped on, so in this case, halfway through the conversation, the lady changes topics and just starts speaking gibberish. It's happened before.


What I want to know is, if lithium calms people--evens out their emotional states--then how can it be that a two-molecule compound of the same stuff (bonded into crystalline form)--is so powerful and energizing? Makes absolutely no sense.
 
Ummm...
Posted by ParU on Mon, 01/12/2004 - 7:43pm.
Matt... you do know that was a TV show and not real, right?
And the 'lithium' drug is really a lithium compound.
Similiar situation is Sodium. In pure form it'll explode on contact with water (even the water in the air). Bond it to Chlorine and you got a tasty seasoning (table salt).
It's Amino World without Chemists
 
Uh...
Posted by marinerd on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 10:40am.
ParU, define "real". I think your def. is a lot more restricted than mine! *g*

And I liked the sig line!
 
Thanks marinerd...
Posted by ParU on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 10:52am.
But I stole the line from the American Chemical Society... Clever though, isn't it?
 
Oh come on...
Posted by umop apisdn on Mon, 01/12/2004 - 11:39pm.
You have never intentionally said something with the point of being overheard? Especially fun in elevators, just as the door is opening.

"She thought it felt weird, but I kinda liked-- "


--
A precariously balanced mixture of myopic optimism and rampant paranoia.
 
Posted by Matt on Mon, 01/12/2004 - 7:59pm.
I think most of us did the sodium-in-water activity in high school Chem class, big guy. Get a little chunk, put it in a wide-mouthed graduated cylinder with water, and watch it spin round and round, following the rim of the cylinder. We got a chunk that was a skosh too big and had the anti-climactic (for the teacher) joy of watching our sodium catch fire as it spun around the glass.

Star Trek was not a show. It's a religion with its own division of sects and denominations. And they too may worship false idols on occasion.

Wesley Crusher was a wussy little girl.
 
Puh-lease. All the jealous boys say that.
Posted by TheEileen on Fri, 03/26/2004 - 2:52pm.
Yeah, I noticed immediately that every person who hated Wesley Crusher was a GUY who could only see that this kid got to be on the show they wanted to be on. They wanted to be the teenage genius that saved the day. And they weren't.

Not to say that some of the plots in the later seasons involving everyone but Wes being an idiot weren't annoying as heck, but in the beginning, his character was fine.

The Eileen
Take the road not taken - the leaves crunch that much louder!
 
The Sodium thing is more fun
Posted by dave on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 2:24pm.
The Sodium thing is more fun when a large chunk floats down the communal drain of the lab bench and then drops into the sink ... resulting in three foot high flames erupting from it and the Indian chem teacher running around on his wonky leg shouting "don't put vater on it! don't put vater on it!"

"Million to one chances happen nine times out of ten"
 
Chem
Posted by Cebu on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 7:13pm.
I didn't get to do jack in Chem. All book work and math that NEVER EVER EVER made any sense.

But I do know how to make Glint now. *buzz buzz*

Wesley may have been a wuss (so I hear, anyway) but Wil is a pretty interesting and humorous grown-up.
 
Smart Alec Lit Major...
Posted by ParU on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 10:50am.
There's no such thing as a wide-mouthed graduated cylinder. What you were using was a Beaker. Harrummpphh. *g*.
Chemists have Solutions
 
Posted by Matt on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 6:06pm.
Not possible. Beaker is an orange-headed neurotic with a speech impediment created by Jim Henson.
 
Want to bet a beer...
Posted by ParU on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 8:57pm.
at Raleigh's that I'm right?
 
I don't drink beer
Posted by Apple on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 6:46am.
Matt is right, you know.
 
The ultimate judge
Posted by Mike on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 9:04am.
Google's word is final-- looks like a tie. To settle the bet, each of you must buy a pint of beer for the other: Matt will drink his from a glass cylinder, and ParU will guzzle from a Muppet's open mouth.

Pictures will be made available on CITYBagel.
 
Now
Posted by Apple on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 9:44am.
There's a set of pictures I want to see!

I'm sure someone is competent enough with a camera to get them without Unit's face, you know, for anonymity's sake.

*grin*
 
Well ...
Posted by ParU on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 9:53am.
Thanks Apple - but I have had a beer with Matt at Raleigh's before, though I didn't wear a mask. (Well OK, a Pepsi, I rarely drink). But we'll see if he wants to pay off or not.
 
No, no, no
Posted by Apple on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 12:12pm.
I meant for the pictures. We're calling for pictures.

*grin*
 
Hmm
Posted by Jon on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 1:35pm.
I can't wait to hear Cebu's take on the muppet picture, given her .sig line... ;-)
 
I LOVE the Muppets. It's so u
Posted by Cebu on Thu, 01/15/2004 - 4:56pm.
I LOVE the Muppets. It's so unfortunate that Sesame Street has become The Elmo Show. I miss the days when Grover was the popular monster round those parts. he is the best after all.


as always,
I hate Elmo.
:D
 
Grover?
Posted by hypoxic on Thu, 01/15/2004 - 8:51pm.
WTF? Better then Cookie or Oscar or hell even Snuffy?

Grover sucked.

Heh debating muppets I can do. Not touching the religion thing.
 
Posted by Matt on Thu, 01/15/2004 - 10:04pm.
Hypo, all the characters you listed are one-dimensional. In that sense, yeah. They're on a lower level than Grover. At least Grover is inscrutable.

I can't believe I've actually entered into this debate. Muppets are so 20 years ago.

Must be that retro cool thing I can't avoid.
 
(*scoff*)
Posted by Mike on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 8:16am.
One dimensional? They're monsters-- they're supposed to be nothing but walking balls of raw emotion! I say that Grover and Harry and most of the talking monsters were lesser monsters because they could speak and reason and control their emotions. Civilized monsters? WTF??

So yeah, the best monsters were the ones who were at least a little weird/scary/impulsive. Cookie Monster was good-- until he started eating vegetables and rapping about nutrition. The real ultimate Muppet was, of course, Frazzle. He wasn't friendly, he couldn't talk, and he stuck his tongue out at everybody. I'm not sure he was ever even allowed near the children wandering around Sesame Street-- Frazzle was that hardcore!

And yes, I could argue about this all day.
 
.
Posted by Cebu on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 11:49am.
*choke* You insult the cute, adorable,loveable Grover? Shame! I'm not hearing that, mister!
 
So
Posted by Apple on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 8:50am.
Animal was a favorite??

*grin*
 
Animal was my favorite, sure
Posted by umrguy on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 11:11am.
Animal was my favorite, sure as hell. Followed in no particular order by Beaker, Rowlf, Zoot, and Dr. Teeth. And Gonzo.

-There's someone in my head, but it's not me.-
 
Real monsters have *teeth*
Posted by Mike on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 12:25pm.
Or, failing that, enornous appetites (Cookie Monster), or, failing that, really creepy mouths ("Yipyipyipyip..."). Sorry, Cebu, I didn't make the rules.

Oh yeah, umrguy, don't forget that one guy with the dynamite and the boomerang fish. He was excellent because he served absolutely no purpose.

Huh. I'm on a strange computer at the moment, so I can't check: does this link lead anywhere useful?
 
Ummm, not quite
Posted by umrguy on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 2:58pm.
Mike, those were two separate guys. I can't remember the boomerang fish dude's name, but the dynamite guy was like Crazy Harry or something like that.

-There's someone in my head, but it's not me.-
 
Boomerang fish guy
Posted by hypoxic on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 3:30pm.
I think his name was like enzo and he threw mackeral?

editted

Whoops I was wrong. Here's the link about all the muppet characters. The fish guy is Lew Zealand and the dynamite guy is Crazy Harry.
 
Oh, that's right.
Posted by Mike on Sun, 01/18/2004 - 3:55pm.
I hadn't seen them in forever. This is why the reruns need to be shown again.
 
He's a PUPPET on a child's sh
Posted by Cebu on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 1:24pm.
He's a PUPPET on a child's show, he doesn't need teeth. :P
 
Muppets...
Posted by ParU on Thu, 01/15/2004 - 10:19pm.
Well I wasn't that big a fan of the Muppets. But in honor of founder of this site (who was a HUGE fan of Sesame Street), I'd have to vote for Ernie... (Of Bert and Ernie fame).

Of course Sesame Street is an example of how stupid some of the folk are at PBS. They let the the Children's TV Workshop make ALL the money from Sesame Street, thus ensuring that none of their other shows get funding. Sesame Street alone could've funded PBS and NPR with $$ left over for other things.
 
Dude!
Posted by hypoxic on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 9:04am.
Sesame street was Jim Henson creation and he had the muppets. That's why PBS can't own them. And WTF? Sesame Street isn't supposed to fund PBS the viewers are. By providing seseme street commercial free the PBS stations are supposed to be able to have viewers donate money. When's the last time you actually looked at what a PBS station does and how it gets funded?

PBS stations are not a true cohesive commercial network. They are a patchwork collection of stations that can play anything and everything when they want as long as they pay for the licensing rights. Sure they try to keep similar times but in no way are they constrained by it. The PBS station in San Francisco (rich) does not have to share either original programming or money with the PBS station in Carney, NE. So Sesame St would have made only one PBS station rich. And had absolutely nothing to do with NPR!

And what the fuck? You're ranting about PBS and NPR on a muppets thread? Dude that's just messed up.
 
Not a big fan of the Muppets?!?
Posted by paul on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 6:27am.
Blasphemer!

The original Muppet Show, the one that came on in the evenings in the 70s, was absolutely brilliant. Kid friendly, but with enough stuff for the adults to make it hilarious... only the Animaniacs have ever done better with it.

Actually, ParU, I would have figured that you would be a very big fan of Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and Beaker...
 
Muppets...
Posted by ParU on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 9:23am.
Yeah Paul I shoulda been, but I was in grad school, getting married, working two jobs and then later in grad school, working 2 jobs and having a little baby run around, so I was kinda, sorta, busy and never watched it.

But it's all good. Cause if I hadn't paid so much attention to my daughter, she probably wouldn't have been reading by 4 and gotten into Berkeley, then been listening out her apt. window and decided to post what she overheard online, and then where'd we be?
 
Muppets
Posted by Apple on Fri, 01/16/2004 - 5:53am.
I much prefer the characters from the actual Muppets show. Sam the Eagle, Pepé Shrimp, those big fuzzy Wild Things-ish monsters, oh and the grumpy guys in the balcony (Statler and Waldorf), Bunsen and Beaker, Swedish Chef, Gonzo, etc... I love them all.
This is one of my frequent stops on the 'net.
*grin*
 
Posted by Matt on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 9:26pm.
Elmo's not a Muppet. He's an empty ball of cuteness rolled inside a massive Zoloft pill in disguise to hide the fact that he's some kind of sick, Tarantino-esque parody of a Muppet, as imagined by someone who's been way overexposed to Hieronymus Bosch paintings.

I find ParU's lack of sense of humor disturbing.
 
I assume that everyone has he
Posted by dave on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 10:40pm.
I assume that everyone has heard about the woman holding up the tickle-me-elmo manufacturing line ... caught hand sewing each of the dolls at the end of the line ...she'd been told to give each doll two test tickles.

"Million to one chances happen nine times out of ten"
 
Squick
Posted by Apple on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 9:48pm.
Elmo in the roll of Mr. Blonde is really quite disturbing. Thanks, Matt.
 
I'm never wrong...
Posted by ParU on Wed, 01/14/2004 - 9:04am.
except when I am.

Besides where do you think Henson got the idea from?
 
Nothing wrong with a little
Posted by Jon on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 6:51am.
Nothing wrong with a little sects and violins on TV...
 
There's
Posted by Apple on Tue, 01/13/2004 - 7:10am.
no sects in my violins.
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