14 October 2002
Submitted by eve on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 10:51am. News
Metacookie is dead, long live RSS.

Nothing's changing much, just one link vanishing from the front page here and another one appearing in its place, and presto, a new way to keep up with which of your favorite sites have been updated since you read them last.

I'm in MidtermLand and very busy pulling out my hair, putting eyedrops in my bleary eyes, going fetal at the practice problems, etc, but there's a nice description of what RSS is here.

Thanks to Kevin for the code and Benjy for the implementation.

Right, back to studying now.
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Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 10/25/2002 - 3:20pm.
Archived comment by Mike:
Actually, now that I look at it, it's not really fully functional; it just lets me go to places I'd already been. It seems frozen. I'd think that he knows that Metacookie still technically exists and all, but I'll mention it to him.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 10/25/2002 - 7:47am.
Archived comment by Jon:
You might want to send Kevin (namelink) a note about that, Mike.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/24/2002 - 12:29pm.
Archived comment by Mike:
Er, Metacookie still seems to work if you're stubborn enough to go find a link. Or make your own. Whee!

It's probably just temporary, though.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/24/2002 - 12:09pm.
Archived comment by Arlene:
And Abigail Adams wrote to her husband to remind him of the importance of women's rights. *sigh* she's one of my role models.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 10/23/2002 - 2:25pm.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Well Jon *I'd* come see your play for two reasons:

1. You're in it.

2. It's a great play.

So you taking the show 'on the road' before you go to Broadway with it??

And, in my imperfect understanding of history, there WAS a discussion about slavery as a large number of the Founding Fathers were against it on 'moral grounds'. You know it's kind of interesting thinking about a time when politicians were concerned with 'moral grounds' rather than opinion polls.

(I say that because we've got an election coming up in Calif. with the Governor's race being between Gray the greedy, and Simon the Simple.)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 10/23/2002 - 1:31pm.
Archived comment by Jon:
Parental, I'm portraying George Read, conservative delegate from Delaware.
The two other delegates support independency, while my character opposes it.

*resisting urge to quote show again*

Was slavery as a topic during the fashioning of the Declaration mentioned, or was that a general comment about the Civil War? I say that because "1776" was intentionally written to foreshadow the Civil War - at that time, slavery was not as much of an issue to the delegates as it's made out to be in the musical. (Has a whole song devoted to it)

I actually have people from work coming to see it! This is a great improvement - at my last job, even after years of pleading, not one person from my group ever saw one of my shows. Made me feel wanted, it did.
*does happy dance*
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 11:34am.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
No, no, no - steff and Monk are BOTH right. steff was shocked that Monk mentioned the 'work approp' part and then Monk posted a non-approp. part.

That's sorta the rule here folks. Since lots of people work in cubes with others able to see the screens, we don't want to get anyone fired. So if you've got a 'non-work approp.' link, please announce it (please). Goes along with the 'play nice kids'.

And see Monk can too act older than his pre-pubescent age. (*g*)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 10:59am.
Archived comment by Apple:
He responded in a typical fashion! Now all is right! Hehe!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 10:42am.
Archived comment by Monk:
I apologize G. Please....see the namelink for for a different type of sucksession. Video number 3 focuses on California.



[duh....not work approp]
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 10:28am.
Archived comment by steff:
ah, i see... not nearly as drastic as it was made to sound. damn. could have been fun to watch! heh.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 10:26am.
Archived comment by steff:
it's somehow comforting to know that, even when posting something as seemingly NONporn related as this, we can still count on monk to know we'll assume the worst and to let us know whether it's work-safe to click on a link he's posted. all is right with the world.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 7:37am.
Archived comment by Separatist Monk:
steff - see da name link for the California secession.

[work approp]

Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 7:08am.
Archived comment by Arlene:
And just to add fuel to the fire, slavery was a big rallying cry (for & against) but there were also concerns about States' Rights vs. Federal Rights. What are the states' responsibilities/rights & what should the central Federal government handle? After all, if slavery was the only issue then why would Grant fight for the Union & Lee fight for the South? And yes I am thankful today that the South lost (all things, like WWII, considered) & that slavery ended. But I won't go into all the reasons why slavery is a bad idea, we'll just take that as a given.

Then there's the guy that failed to become US president so he agitated for secession & then failed to become pres of the CSA. Ain't politics grand!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 6:25am.
Archived comment by tim:
Well...I've been hearing for years that " when the big one hits" California will secede with a huge splash anyway so......

Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/22/2002 - 5:31am.
Archived comment by Apple:
I know nothing of the California secession, but Southern Illinois wants to become a state. Tired of being run by Chicago. Heh.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/21/2002 - 9:39pm.
Archived comment by steff:
ok, speaking of secession... i was watching a california tv station recently (the magic of satellite tv), and there was an ad urging voters to vote NO to the secession - was i hallucinating? will someone explain? and, do those of us in the 'fly over zone' really care? *grin*
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/21/2002 - 3:32pm.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Yes Jon - or as it has been put 'history is written by the winners'.

I saw 1776 a long time ago (in LA before it went to Broadway) with Lucy Arnez & Robert Klein - Great show. What part are you?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/21/2002 - 1:32pm.
Archived comment by Jon:
That question makes performing in "1776" seem more topical than ever. To quote from the show: "...it is in the first person, as in 'our rebellion', that it is legal. It is only in the third person, as in 'their rebellion', that is is illegal."
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/21/2002 - 12:48pm.
Archived comment by hypoxic:
yup. This is one of those threads that just won't get many posts. So the question remains, is it ok for an area to secede from its country and if so does that country have the right to forcibly prevent that succession? I agree that peaceful and non-violent demonstrations are the way to go but are they all that successful?

And concerning Kashmir, I don't really think this is a succession thing but rather a territorial dispute that harks back to the formation of modern India and Pakistan. If I remember correctly a Bengal Prince, well it was some type of Hindu ruler, decided that he didn't want Kashmir to join Muslim Pakistan so he joined Hindu India. But his Muslim majority wanted to join Pakistan. Now we have two competing claims for the area.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/21/2002 - 12:34pm.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Killed that thread deader than a troll, didn't I?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Fri, 10/18/2002 - 10:16pm.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Actually hypoxic I thought it went extremely well. And the Kashmir situation is one that I know a little about, but in general I think it's more indicative of the 'nationalism' problem.

That is, the only reason people want their 'territory' to be part of 'one nation' or another is that they see that their 'rights' are being trampled upon by their present 'nation'. So you get secession movements.

In the US we had people who felt their 'right' to own other people were being trampled by the northern majority and we fought by far the bloodiest war America has ever fought to settle the question. I bring up that example because Americans (and that would include me) tend to have a 'holier than thou' attitude towards the rest of the world.

But peaceful seccession/demands for rights works much better. Quebec is the modern example. The 'right' to a French culture is preserved and few people (lately at least) are killed. It'd be nice if India and Pakistan could 'just get along'.

Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 7:20pm.
Archived comment by tomas fool:
hi again

yes, ParU, i understand that others have
opposing views-- that's why i keep talking and
talking and talking... i hope i have not been
speaking in a trolling tone.

hypoxic: yes, this topic belongs on another
forum if an in-depth discussion is going to
take place. i was just bringing it up here
because this case has been on my mind for
so long and i was so loopy last night that i
thought IP would be another good place to tell
people about it, so that others might do a little
research for themselves. (most of my
research was from the web).

unfortunately, this will be my last post for quite
a while (honest). thanks for the froot bad,
Monk. it's squeaky when i bite it.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 2:18pm.
Archived comment by hypoxic:
To tell you all the truth I don't know quite enough about the India/Kashmir issue to make an informed opinion. If you want to seriously discuss it I think that there are other boards more suited for it.

And yes I too am against a police force that does not do its job of protecting its citizens. I don't know how impartial you're websites and info is so I'll reserve judgement concerning this situation. If you would like to try another subject please feel free. I'd avoid public funding of art BTW. We just beat that to death :) Though I think it went very well.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 1:35pm.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Welcome tomas!! Always glad to have semi-serious discussions now and then. But please be prepared to acknowledge that others may have opposing views. Well reasoned discussions are appropriate. Flames risk ostracism.

And yes Monk you do have power. Use the Force wisely my son.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:27pm.
Archived comment by Monk:
*stares at fingertips in amazement*

wow....I have real power in these digits! I say "post more".... voila.

FreeTheHamstersWorldWide!

Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 12:22pm.
Archived comment by tomas fool:
Yes, generally tom is against spontaneous or pre-planned massacres and sustained campaigns of cultural and religous genocide in any part of the world.

I would be interested to see more Americans talk about global issues. I would like to see more Americans engage with political issues, not just learn enough to make a righteous condemnation or moral commendation... and stop thinking about an issue.

i'm not very good at debates(that is, if a debate is defined by two parties arguing FOR or AGAINST something); i would rather see us thinking together toward ethical intervention and responsible living in this world. that way there's no trying to "convince" anyone of anything; we're all working together toward more useful daily practices and ways of thinking.

A lot of money that these religious extremist organizations get are from the US and West Europe, where the campaign is dressed up as the "preservation" of Hinduism. A consideration of global racism in nuclear politics, religious nationalism, and construction of identities would be somewhat important in the context of globalization and violence in South Asia. What can we do? How do we fit our own agency and capabilities in the world?

Obviously one does not have to make this issue one's own life-- I don't, since I'm also keeping up on the war on Iraq, Colombia, and Israel-Palestine. Heck, i haven't stopped talking about these issues to people I care about... that's all i'm capable of right now, but hopefully i can get something published soon, build more alliances, and be a part of a movement, something bigger than myself, to shift American thinking and living on a wider scale.

Incidentally-- I am a Chinese-American US citizen who lives in Berkeley, and I'm going to grad school in SF. (Just so that you know I'm a citizen struggling to live what I speak.)

And i should be working on my paper now...
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 11:18am.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Nawww Monk - hypoxic and I LOVE political debates.

Though I'm not sure which 'side' tomas is on. Personally I'm against rioting and killing people and the police not doing their jobs.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 9:12am.
Archived comment by Monk:
Hypo - let's just leave this thread so whenever people complain about how long the threads are getting - we can point to "October 14, 2002" as a recent low number of posts.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 9:08am.
Archived comment by hypoxic:
garn! political debate.

Must resist temptation to start debate.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 8:46am.
Archived comment by Monk:
Tomas - welcome from India. I mean...from IP. I mean you're from India. I mean the Internet link is.... I mean IP is in california. I mean...

welcome and have a froot bat. You know the schpiel. Hope to see you post more.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Thu, 10/17/2002 - 1:37am.
Archived comment by tomas fool:
When you first said "long live RSS" i was
so completely freaked out... the RSS (rastriya
swayamsevak sangh) is an organization in
India (incidentally, one of its members killed
Gandhi) that's been gathering strength lately.
The riots in Feb-March? RSS is part of a
family of Hindu Right-wing organizations
whose members planned
the violence after the killing of 58 Hindus in
Godhra. (That violence was reportedly
committed by Muslim vendors, but now there
are suspicions that the fire on the train started
INSIDE, not outside.)

Cell-phone coordination and voter list
printouts to see who's a Muslim and who's
not-- the rioting Hindu extremsts sometimes
numbered thousands strong. Horrifying
things happened to thousands of Muslims
(and the backlash against Hindus by Muslims
was pretty nasty as well). I will
spare you the details because I know some
young people are here. 100,000 of people,
mostly Muslims, have been displaced due to
the violence...

If you're interested, there's a Human Rights
Report on the Gujarat riots, called: "We have
no orders to save you" [name link], which is
what some police told the Muslims who called
them for help. the intersection between
religious extremism and state complicity is a
scary scary place.

The other scary thought is that religious
extremism is often one of the responses
kicked up to protect a constructed (often rigid)
cultural purity in the face of the homogenizing
effects of globalizing capitalism and Western
values.

in any case, had to get that off my chest. back
to lurking now.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Wed, 10/16/2002 - 7:32am.
Archived comment by Monk:
I thought I asked that you not reveal my real name, ALVIN!!!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/15/2002 - 4:01pm.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Mr. Kotarah (say it out loud): No, Horschak sit down...

Is that a great name for Monk or what??
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/15/2002 - 2:26pm.
Archived comment by Monk:
ohohohohohohoh.....Mr. Kotter, Mr. Kotter. Pick me, pick me. I know the answeh!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/15/2002 - 2:23pm.
Archived comment by steff:
ummmm, parental unit... *grin* i'll let someone else fill you in on what the rest of my post would have said.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/15/2002 - 7:39am.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Yeah steff - we appreciate your adoration, but it doesn't pay server costs. *g*
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/15/2002 - 7:33am.
Archived comment by steff:
we're not ingrates! we have nothing but esteem and adoration for eve, and you're calling us names. hmph.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Tue, 10/15/2002 - 2:32am.
Archived comment by kris:
the midterm planet seems to have invaded college campuses. bringing sour moods and irritable folks together in a semblance of globality
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 10:40pm.
Archived comment by Kevin Fox:
I'm a grad student and I still have midterms... Ugh.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 8:23pm.
Archived comment by Jon:
Dawn breaks over Marblehead. : )
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 7:23pm.
Archived comment by Apple:
That would explain the lack of posts today. It's a holiday! 8^D
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 5:18pm.
Archived comment by someguyintexas:
Go postal? You planning on putting up an 'on break' sign and having a snack? Or maybe you just plan on misdirecting a few emails?
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 2:36pm.
Archived comment by Kris the Girl:
uh...shut up "old man" lest we undergrads ban together and go postal.
or, something.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 1:33pm.
Archived comment by Mike:
Mid... terms? Hm, must be one of those undergrad things. (*ducking*)
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 12:38pm.
Archived comment by E!:
Eve --

Going fetal at the practice problems doesn't help. First, you can't read the problem correctly anymore. Second, you can't write/type correctly in that position (can you say, "Hello carpal tunnel"?). Third, the frustration that builds up after going fetal and getting nowhere leads to going postal...and we don't want that. You'll find a better way to lick those problems! (Pun intended 8-P )

---

Sockittomesockittomesockittome!
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 11:58am.
Archived comment by Goat Eater:
and yes, I can spell, but I CHOSE to leave out the "w"
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 11:57am.
Archived comment by Goat Eater:
Uh, PU? Not to be nitt-picky, but it ould be "finished", not "done". Since there's nothing to comment on, I pick you.
Posted by Anne Onymous on Mon, 10/14/2002 - 11:33am.
Archived comment by Parental Unit:
Eve - Go study! Don't hassle with these ingrates until midterms are done!!

FP!
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