Hey I was trying to defuse the situation. I laid my 'neck' on the line by warning the other Proj. Mgrs. of what was coming down. I totally agree with you Paul. But there are some people who think they're soooo clever and going to be able to lay blame on others. And in this case, it blew up on them (yes steff it's a metaphor, be careful or I'll start using baseball metaphors, too. *g*)